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Post by paulgwilliams on Apr 21, 2014 4:47:51 GMT
Hi,
This is the information i have on my grandfather:
Stephen THOMAS Head Male 43 Maenclochog, Pembroke Coal Miner
Elizabeth THOMAS Wife Female 41 Baglan, Glamorgan Coal Miners Wife
William THOMAS Son Male 23 Briton Ferry, Glamorgan Coal Miner
Annie THOMAS Dau Female 19 Briton Ferry, Glamorgan Coal Miner Daughter
Benjamin WILLIAMS Neph Male 19 Briton Ferry, Glamorgan Coal Miner Nephew
this is from www.familysearch.org for 1881
Pontycwmer , Llangeinor, Glamorgan, Wales
RG11 Piece / Folio 5328 / 109 Page Number
Finally have Benjamin's marriage (first) certificate, married a Cecila Thomas, this is most strange mother and wife have the same maiden name! also it just says "xmas day" nothing else the people at Neath had never seen that before, from december 1886, her father was a David Thomas, witnesses were Annie Thomas and Benjamin Thomas.
Benjamin is listed as residing in Pontycymmer, but marriage was in Llangenior.
more information look here www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=43469.0
Is anyone else researching either my family or Benjamin's wife line the Thomas'
Many thanks in advance
Kind regards
Paul Williams
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Post by ctdavies on May 2, 2014 13:55:16 GMT
Regarding in-laws having the same first names. This is not as unusual as many may think. My ancestress Margaret Thomas nee Thomas had a daughter, three daughters-in-law, and at least two granddaughters all named Margaret Thomas! The same can happen with male first names and when a John Thomas married the sister of a John Thomas and had a son John Thomas and so on, then the fun really begins. I will check my notes to see id I can help. Be in touch asap.
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Post by magsvs on Jul 6, 2014 1:31:40 GMT
OK, Benjamin Williams marries Celia Thomas in 1886, you say wife and mother have same maiden name? So have you found Benjamin on earlier census and then found the marriage record of his parents to find his mothers maiden name. The 1881 census (from your post) states him as a nephew to head of household, have you found out whether it is the man of the house or the wife he is actually the blood nephew of, which could obviously be a sister of one of those and so the surname Williams could be a sisters married name. I am happy to try and help with your queries but need to know a bit more of what you have found and importantly why/where you have found Benjamins' mothers maiden name to be Thomas. I enjoy trying to help with queries like this, if you would rather it be via PM please contact me.
Pontycymer was part of the parish of Llangeinor which would explain the address of the person marrying being recorded as being Llangeinor in the district of Bridgend.
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Post by ctdavies on Jul 11, 2014 11:29:06 GMT
My ancestress was a Cecille, or Cecil Thomas, there were many spellings. She had a brother David who lived at one time in Cwmafan. I do not know all of David's family and am wondering if my uncle is the same person as the David on your tree? Do you know from the marriage certificate of Celia what her father's occupation was? I am still trying to access census records to help you.
Colin
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Post by paulgwilliams on Feb 13, 2015 23:17:36 GMT
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Post by paulgwilliams on Feb 13, 2015 23:38:27 GMT
Hiya,
On the marriage certificate 25/12/1886 for Benjamin Williams 24 and Cecila Thomas 21, her father David Thomas listed as Collier, married is witnessed by Anne Thomas and Benjamin Thomas.
Regards
Paul Williams
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Post by paulgwilliams on Feb 15, 2015 1:37:44 GMT
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