Post by ctdavies on Jan 22, 2013 13:09:50 GMT
I appreciate that I may be turning over old ground that is no longer fertile. May I enquire as to why Bettws has lost a "T"; Pontycymmer an "M" and St Ceinwr had a sex change? I remember both of my dadcu's (Tadaugu?) who were
natives of the Garw discussing the subject. Llangeinor is a new name, only being used as far as I am aware since the construction of the new houses during the 1920s from below Tynyrheol School (opened 1900) eventually to opposite Pandy. The school name is a clear indicator of the late introduction of "Llangeinor". During the 1841 census the name Llangeinor Village was restricted to the area surrounding the church. Tynyrheol was not mentioned, but "Rough Mill Village" and Cwm Garw were. Tynyrheol does appear once in the church registers about 1819, however Cwm Felin Arw appears regularly, and is clearly shown on Ordnance Survey Maps the earliest of which shows Tynyrheol as being adjacent to Tynant farm and not by the Green Meadow.
Pontyrhyl seems to have been sold short when given its name. Being at the foot of the Garw Fechan I would have expected the use of "Cymmer" (Cum or Com + Ber= to bear or carry together) as equals.
Pontycymmer was based at the foot of Cwm Gelli Wern where it joined the Garw. In this case it was given a name which should have been exchanged with Pontyrhyl.
As to Oxford Street. I feel that this was from Nantyruchain (brook of the ox) also the name of a farm. Others mention something to do with fording the Garw. Prior to industrial development there were no roads or bridges and therefore everthing had to ford all water courses. So I favour the brook rather than the river.
Please let me have your views as I am sure there are some who hold ones that are different.
natives of the Garw discussing the subject. Llangeinor is a new name, only being used as far as I am aware since the construction of the new houses during the 1920s from below Tynyrheol School (opened 1900) eventually to opposite Pandy. The school name is a clear indicator of the late introduction of "Llangeinor". During the 1841 census the name Llangeinor Village was restricted to the area surrounding the church. Tynyrheol was not mentioned, but "Rough Mill Village" and Cwm Garw were. Tynyrheol does appear once in the church registers about 1819, however Cwm Felin Arw appears regularly, and is clearly shown on Ordnance Survey Maps the earliest of which shows Tynyrheol as being adjacent to Tynant farm and not by the Green Meadow.
Pontyrhyl seems to have been sold short when given its name. Being at the foot of the Garw Fechan I would have expected the use of "Cymmer" (Cum or Com + Ber= to bear or carry together) as equals.
Pontycymmer was based at the foot of Cwm Gelli Wern where it joined the Garw. In this case it was given a name which should have been exchanged with Pontyrhyl.
As to Oxford Street. I feel that this was from Nantyruchain (brook of the ox) also the name of a farm. Others mention something to do with fording the Garw. Prior to industrial development there were no roads or bridges and therefore everthing had to ford all water courses. So I favour the brook rather than the river.
Please let me have your views as I am sure there are some who hold ones that are different.